tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6529647435872563341.post5165709633521335007..comments2023-07-05T06:55:53.577-04:00Comments on College Ready Writing: Teaching Writing and Editing WritersLee Skallerup Bessette, PhDhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12243750156552824701noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6529647435872563341.post-19110830464191116302010-12-29T14:37:56.496-05:002010-12-29T14:37:56.496-05:00I love how it is often my off-handed comments that...I love how it is often my off-handed comments that become the most telling about the current situation in higher education. Collaboration isn't the same thing as plagiarism, obviously, but for many students, the lines have been badly blurred. Perhaps if I did an assignment where the grade a student received was the grade given to the other student's paper, the student they were supposed to be editing/collaborating with. It would be in the student's best interest to help the other student write the best possible paper. It would also encourage students to pair off with the best writers in the class, but that's just me being cynical.<br /><br />I like the idea of a style guide, especially if we develop it together as a class, discussing audience, purpose, etc. I wish I could also find a really good example online showing students how brutal the editing process can be for a professional writer.Lee Skallerup Bessette, PhDhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12243750156552824701noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6529647435872563341.post-48388836311750245422010-12-06T15:08:58.470-05:002010-12-06T15:08:58.470-05:00I'm not sure if this is a side issue or part o...I'm not sure if this is a side issue or part of the main issue but this looks important: "Part of it has to do with the idea of plagiarism; these kids have been taught to only submit their own, original work, lest they face some very severe consequences."<br /><br />I think we need to move beyond rules about plagiarism and start talking about principles, about writing AS collaboration, or at least about the Romantic (yes, with capital R) view of the author and how he (for he is primarily a he) lives on in law and college policy while not really existing in a meaningful sense in the practice of writers, and so on.<br /><br />Maybe this will enable students to develop their writing and their judgement. And for better students, those who go on to academic careers or other careers as writers, will give them some tools to deal with the problem of "originality" and the value of one's written work.JoVEhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16680602039278597976noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6529647435872563341.post-31934900603878829602010-12-06T12:14:49.980-05:002010-12-06T12:14:49.980-05:00You said "Is it because I haven't provide...You said "Is it because I haven't provided a model for them to follow?" Some editing pitfalls can be avoided by instituting a style guide and enforcing it with your writers. The rule regarding the placement or non-placement of the last serial comma varies in each style guide. There's nothing inherently wrong about either usage. This is especially true when there's no style guide governing a collective of writers.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com